Special Order: Urging Environmental Debate
Between Presidential Candidates
(House of Representatives - October 12, 2000)
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of January 6,
1999,
the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer) is recognized for 60
minutes as the
designee of the minority leader.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I want to spend this time this evening dealing
with an
issue that I hope will get the attention that it deserves yet in
this election. We just had the
second Presidential debate last night. I
still hold out hope for an environmental debate
between the candidates for
President as well as leaders in both parties up and down the
ticket.
The significance of the environment to the American public is not just a
matter of public
opinion polls, although I note with interest recently a
publication of the Clean Air Trust
where they had conducted a survey of
voters that indicated that 4 in 10 suggested that
they would shun a
Presidential candidate who opposed tougher new clean air standards,
according to their national poll by the nonprofit Clean Air Trust. They were
conducting this
survey to determine the impact of just this one key
environmental issue, clean air.
At the same time, nearly 6 in 10 voters say they would reward a Presidential
candidate
who fought to support clean air standards. These are entirely
consistent with results of a
separate Clean Air Trust survey of likely
voters in the battleground State of Michigan. But
we do not have to just
look at public opinion polls.
I note with interest that, when we open up the newspapers in our communities
from coast
to coast, border to border, they are filled with issues of
environmental concern to our
citizens. A lot of the work that I do in
Congress focuses on livable communities and what
the Federal Government can
do to be a better partner in promoting an environment where
our families are
safe, healthy, and economically secure.
I am pleased that the Vice President has been a champion of the Federal
partnership in
promoting livable communities. His activity on behalf of the
President's Council for
Sustainable Development, indeed, he has been pushing
and probing across the board in
the Federal Government for each and every
agency to have their program of sustainable
development, of livable
communities, of ways to promote environmental enhancement.
The contrast with Governor Bush I think could not be more stark. There is no
comprehensive State program in the State of Texas dealing with environmental
quality and
livability. Indeed, there is no indication that Governor Bush
has chosen this as an area that
he wants to promote Federal involvement and
partnership.
When we look at the response to local communities in the State of Texas to
try and deal
with those problems, it appears that he does not really look
with favor at initiatives at the
local level.
I would quote from a recent column by Neal Peirce, one of the national
journalistic experts
in this arena who has been following livability
environment and what happens in our
metropolitan areas for several decades.
He had indicated that the question about
Governor Bush is why he seems oh so
indifferent to America's growth quandaries. He
constantly stresses local
control.
But The Austin American-Statesman reports that, when the growth-deluged city
of Austin,
the capital, moved to regulate development and water quality,
Governor Bush approved
State legislation to negate all its efforts.
So it appears that he does not have a comprehensive program in the State of
Texas. He
does not support a comprehensive approach on the part of the
Federal Government. He is
willing to cut active local
governments like the capital city of Austin off at the knees.
This, I think, speaks volumes to the American public about the most important
challenge
that we are going to be facing in terms of enhancing and
maintaining our quality of life.
I think a further elaboration of the difference between the record of the
Vice President and
the Governor of Texas is enlightening.
The State of Texas ranks near the bottom in spending on the environment, 44th
out of the
50 States in per capita spending on environmental programs,
according to The Los
Angeles Times last April. Texas is the third worst in
the country for toxic water pollution
last year. It was ranked third worst
in terms of dumping chemicals into the water supply. It
also ranked second
worst for omitting known and suspected carcinogens to water in the
country.
In 1998, Texas also had the record with the third most pollution in the
country and ranked
third in omitting reproductive toxins into the waterways,
and second worst in dumping
nitrate compounds into that State's waterways.
Governor Bush selected as his Vice Presidential nominee Dick Cheney, a
gentleman, a
former colleague of many in this Chamber where he served for
some dozen years in the
1980s and 1990s. Secretary Cheney, as a Member of
this body, voted seven times
against authorizing clean water programs, often
as one of a small minority of Members
who voted against the authorization.
In 1986, Secretary Cheney was one of only 21 Members to vote against the
appropriations to carry out the Safe Drinking Water Act. In 1987, he was one
of only 26
Members who voted against overriding President Reagan's veto of
the reauthorization of
the Clean Water Act.
The contrast here with Vice President Gore is stark. As a Senator, Gore
fought for
cleaner water. He was an original cosponsor of the Water Quality
Act of 1987. He has
been part of an administration that has set aside more
lands for Federal protection than
any administration since the man who got
the ball rolling, Republican President Teddy
Roosevelt almost a century ago.
He has been an active promoter of critical partnerships to protect habitat.
As my
colleagues know, 70 percent of the continental United States is in
private hands, and any
successful effort to maintain and restore the
Nation's wildlife must include these private
landowners.
One of the most valuable tools that has evolved is the habitat conservation
plan, which is a
long-term agreement between government and land owners that
helps ensure the survival
of threatened wildlife, while still allowing
productive use of the land.
Prior to 1993, only 14 such plans existed. This administration, with the Vice
President as
the point person on the environment, has since forged another
250 plans, protecting more
than 20 million acres and 200 threatened species,
voluntary programs with private
landowners to protect wildlife.
I think it is also clear that the Vice President would continue to protect
and perhaps even
expand national parks and monuments. This has been an item
of some modest concern on
the floor of this House, and we have had an
opportunity to discuss it. I think the Vice
President is clear that he would
be supportive of those efforts, and he would seek full
funding of the land
legacy initiative that the administration, Mr. Gore, proposed.
They have supported full and permanent funding for the Land and Water
Conservation
Fund. As part of the 2001 budget proposal, the President and
Vice President requested
$1.4 billion for the Land Legacy Initiative. I have
every confidence that, as President, Al
Gore would continue to insist that
the Land and Water Conservation Fund be fully funded.
The Vice President is also on record to support reform of the antiquated
mining law to help
pay for conservation. Currently, the Mining Act of 1872
remains on the books exactly as it
was signed by President Ulysses S. Grant
more than a century and a quarter ago. It
grants, effective today, allowing
patents for hard rock minerals on public lands to be mined
for $2.50 or $5
per acre.
Since taking office in 1993, just in the course of the last two
administrations, the 1872
Mining Law has required the Department of the
Interior to sign 40 mining patents that
deeded away publicly owned resources
valued in the billions of dollars, one estimate is
more than $15 billion, to
individuals and private mining companies. No guarantee that those
private
mining companies are even American companies. In return, the taxpayers have
received a little more than $24,000.
The Vice President supports modernization of this law to take advantage of
changed
circumstances. We are no longer needing to bribe people to exploit
the wilderness and
settle the West. We can use the money from any mining
royalties that we ought to grant to
help pay for incentives to protect open
space and help communities support local parks.
Again, as I look back and reflect on the difference that there would have
between the Vice
President and Governor Bush, I think this record is stark.
If one reviews the record of
Governor Bush, who cites his stewardship, now
in his second term as governor of our
country's second largest State, and
look at what he has done for parks or public land in
the State of Texas, I
think any objective review of that record would find that it is indeed
sparse.
Texas ranks number 49 out of all the States in the amount of money it spends
on State
parks. That is number 49, I might add, from the top to the bottom.
It is next to the last. A
1998 State audit found that Texas had a funding
backlog of $186 million just for
maintenance of its existing parks. In 1999,
the Texas Parks Commission tried to remove a
cap on the sporting goods tax
to increase its revenues so it could do something to help this
desperate
situation in the State of Texas. The governor, sadly, did not support the
proposal and the measure died.
There was at least some lip service that was given by the administration of
Governor Bush
when he appointed a task force to find solutions to these
problems. He created a task
force on conservation which he `charged with
finding ways to ensure that Texas leaves a
legacy for our children and
grandchildren, a legacy of unwavering commitment to protect
and preserve our
treasured lands.' Sounded good. But when he had an opportunity to
translate
this into action, the governor ignored the request for additional funding from
the
Texas Parks Commission.
One of the most exciting proposals that has developed in this Congress, and
something
that has excited the attention of Americans across the country,
has been fully funding the
Land and Water Conservation Act, the CARA
legislation, which passed this Chamber with
an overwhelming bipartisan vote
under the leadership of the gentleman from Alaska (Mr.
Young), chairman of
the Committee on Resources, and the ranking member, the
gentleman from
California (Mr. George Miller). That was really an artful piece of
legislation that would have the opportunity of really transforming the use
of our public land.
It had resources for urban parks, for nature areas, for
habitat restoration, conservation,
purchase and maintenance, and historic
activities. There was something here that excited,
I think, the attention of
environmentalists, conservationists, and citizens all across the
country.
According to the San Antonio Express News last year, when asked if he would
support the
legislation, the governor did not know. I quote: `I do not know
how to answer your
question.' And to the best of my knowledge, I have not
seen him adding his voice to try
and pry this legislation out of the death
grip that it has with the Senate leadership where it
has not been permitted
to move.
It is clear that Governor Bush would increase logging on public lands, but it
is less clear
what that environmental impact would be. He would reverse the
roadless area protections
that are encountered in the administration's
roadless areas initiative, and this came out of
his visit to Seattle, as
quoted in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer on June 26 of this year.
The vice presidential nominee of the Republican Party has been clear that a
Bush-Cheney
administration would be very interested in reopening the issue
of the lands that have been
protected from development by this
administration.
Another issue of great concern to those of us in the Pacific Northwest, where
we are
struggling with how to balance the variety of interests dealing with
the problems of the
Columbia River System, with the issue of endangered
species, with salmon, treaty rights
to Native Americans, where there are
conflicts in terms of barge traffic on the rivers,
recreational users, and
power, this is not an easy issue; and one of the things that has
been clear
is that this administration is willing to explore all options, and even some
that
are going to be very difficult. Vice President Gore has reiterated the
fact that he feels that
until we have a plan in place, that we need to keep
all these options on the table.
Unfortunately, Governor Bush has stepped into a difficult situation, one that
does not have
an obvious solution, and is willing publicly, I think sadly
for political purposes, to rule out
some options without having anything in
the alternative. For him, evidently, not complying
with the Endangered
Species Act, not dealing with our commitments under treaty
obligations to
Native Americans, the extinction of salmon runs is, in fact, an option.
The area of clean air is another one that is of great concern, I think, to
all Americans; but I
want to pause at this point because I have been joined
by the gentleman from New York
(Mr. Hinchey). I am going to begin a somewhat
lengthy piece, but the gentleman from
New York, who is a member of the Committee on Appropriations and a tireless
champion
for environmental interests in his district, in his State of New
York, and throughout the
country, I know has been deeply involved in a
number of these issues. He is a member of
the Subcommittee on Interior of
the Committee on Appropriations as well, and I would
yield to him if he has
some observations or thoughts at this point as we have been
discussing these
issues as it relates to the Vice President, Governor Bush and the choices
before us.
Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me, and I
particularly
thank the gentleman for taking this time to discuss an
important issue, which has not
gotten the attention that I think it deserves
in the context of this particular Congress.
In fact, as a member of this Congress, I have often felt that we are fighting
a defensive
action here, where we are taking actions that are designed to
prevent harm from being
done rather than moving forward in a positive
direction on a number of environmental
issues that really need to be
addressed. The Endangered Species Act is one, and I know
that the gentleman
just referenced it, that deserves a great deal of attention.
The issue of CARA, a piece of legislation which is designed to protect public
lands and
open space, and provide also recreational opportunities both in
rural and urban settings, is
a critically important piece of legislation. A
good portion of that was advanced in the
context of the interior bill, which
we passed here just recently and which was signed by the
President just the
other day.
Now, the reason that that provision advanced in the interior bill was in
large measure a
result of the leadership provided by the administration,
both the President and Vice
President Gore. That interior bill contained a
landmark preservation, if I am not mistaken
the amount was $12 billion, over
a period of time for open space protection, preservation,
and also for
recreational activities, again in rural but also in urban settings in
association
with urban parks and things of that nature.
One of the issues that I think that we really need to address, and which has
not gotten
enough attention, is the issue of water resources, particularly
fresh water resources. It is
true, and many people have observed fairly
recently, that fresh water resources around
the world, including those fresh
water resources here in the United States, are being
depleted, particularly
those resources that lie in aquifers underground. We know that, for
example,
in the great Midwestern section of our country there is a huge underground
reservoir known as the Ogallala, which runs from northern Texas up to the
Dakotas, and
covers a huge vast area, or at least underlies a huge vast area
of the central plains.
That water resource contained in that Ogallala underground reservoir is being
depleted at
a rather alarming rate. This is fossil water. In other words, it
is water that has lain
underground for centuries and there is no visible
source of rejuvenation for this aquifer. The
fact that we are depleting it
at such a rapid rate is something that ought to be of increasing
concern.
Now, the depletion is primarily for agricultural purposes, for applications
of an agricultural
nature throughout that area, and, of course, good
purpose. But the idea that we can
continue to drain a resource in the belief
that that resource is always going to be there and
will not be depleted is a
false notion. It is a basic fallacy, and it is one with which we have
to
come to grips.
So I think that this issue of fresh water resources is an issue that is going
to require a
great deal of attention from this Congress in the future and
from the next administration.
And that, of course, raises the question of
what kind of administration do we want to have
in place here to succeed the
Clinton administration which will husband these resources in a
reasonable
way; in a logical and rational and intelligent way. I think the answer to that
question becomes quite apparent when we look at the choices that we have
before us.
We have on the one hand Governor Bush, who has a record of depletion and
deterioration
of resources in the State in which he is the executive; and,
on the other hand, we have
Vice President Gore, who has a very deep and long
record of environmental protection
and husbanding of resources going back to
the time when he served in this House, and
then later in the Senate, and all
of which he brought to his position as Vice President of the
United States.
So I think as people make decisions with regard to this upcoming election,
and I think it is
easy to lose track of time around here, but I think it is
somewhere in the neighborhood of 3
weeks now until November 7, as people
begin to think more closely about the decision
they are going to make with
regard to who is going to be the leader of our country for the
next 4 years,
I think one of the issues that they ought to factor into their decision-making
is
the issue of the environment and who among those who are holding
themselves out for this
office for President of the United States is best
equipped and has the knowledge and the
sensitivity and the ability to care
about this issue. Who is best equipped, then, in that
regard, to assume the
responsibility of President of the United States.
So this is one of the issues that is of concern to me as I think about the
upcoming election
and I think about the kind of leadership that we are going
to need to carry us forward into
the 21st century at a time when
environmental resources are going to be increasingly
under adverse pressure
and forced into adverse circumstances.
So that is a question which I hope people will be thinking closely about as
they make their
decision about the President and Members of the Congress and
Members of the Senate
as they cast their vote on November 7.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I would like if I could,
with the
indulgence of the gentleman from New York (Mr. Hinchey), yield to
our colleague, the
gentleman from the State of Maryland (Mr. Cardin), who
has a long and distinguished
record as a State legislator, as a private
citizen, and as a Member of this Congress for
focusing in on many of these
concerns that I know my colleague shares.
Mr. CARDIN. Mr. Speaker, let me thank my friend for yielding to me and thank
him for
bringing this issue before this body.
As he pointed out, in last night's debate, we had a little bit of a
discussion about the
environment, not enough of a discussion on the
environment. There is a clear difference
between the Vice President and the
Governor on the environmental issues.
The Vice President, as the gentleman from New York (Mr. Hinchey) has pointed
out,
throughout his entire career has been one of the real leaders on
sensible environmental
policies, policies that not only help preserve our
environment but also deal with economic
expansion but not at the cost of
destroying our woods or our airs. He understands the
importance of smart
growth. He understands the issues of being sensitive to our
environment.
I particularly appreciate the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer) taking
this time.
Because when we contrast that to the record of Governor Bush and
the State of Texas,
which has one of the worst environmental records of any
State in this Nation, and the Vice
President mentioned some statistics
yesterday as related to health care, it is very clear
that the State of
Texas has been at the bottom of our Nation in providing health benefits
for
its citizens, but it is also at the bottom of our Nation on its record on
environment.
They have literally destroyed much of their environment at the cost of trying
to do certain
types of growth when it was not necessary to do that. It is
certainly not the model of
leadership that we need in this nation.
This issue is particularly important to the people of Maryland, important to
all the States.
But the quality of life in Maryland is very much dependent
upon the quality of our
environment. We pride ourselves on the Chesapeake
Bay, the most important natural
resource in our State.
I must tell my colleagues, when I was speaker of our State legislature, we
took on the
challenge to try to reclaim the Chesapeake Bay. Because it was
becoming unsafe in many
areas for people to swim or for people to use for
recreational purposes. If they fell into our
harbor, they did not have to
worry about drowning, they would worry about whether they
could survive the
pollution that was coming in from all sectors, from the industrial use, from
the farming use, from just not paying attention to our environment.
We made a commitment 25 years ago to do something about it. And we have. We
have
done a pretty good job in helping to clean up the Chesapeake Bay. But I
must tell my
colleagues, we need a clean air policy because that affects the
quality of the Bay and acid
rain. We need a smart growth policy because that
affects the quality of the waters leading
into the Chesapeake Bay. We need a
national policy on environment. We need leadership
in the executive branch
that will be sensitive to these environmental issues.
Mr. Speaker, there is such a contrast between the two candidates for
President on this
issue. And I hope that in the remaining 3-plus weeks, less
than 4 weeks, before the
election that we will focus as a Nation on the
environmental issues.
Look at the record of the Vice President and the Governor on the issues that
we have
been talking about this evening. They are very much related to the
quality of life in our
community, very much related to our commitment to try
to improve the quality of life in
each of the districts that we represent.
So I hope that we will take the time to compare the candidates who want to be
President
of this great Nation as to where do they stand on smart growth,
that is placing people near
where they work and where they live so that we
can put less stress on the commute times
in this country, less time on our
energy dependency.
We are too dependent upon imported oil. We all know that. Part of the
solution, as the
Vice President has said, is less use of fossil fuels in our
community, more smart growth in
our community. That will help the quality of
life for people who live in my district and every
district in the Nation,
and it will also help preserve the Chesapeake Bay and the other
great bodies
of water in our Nation and our air that we breathe.
I have been disappointed by what we have done in this session not because of
the
administration but because we have been spending more time trying to
beat down some
bad action by our colleagues, particularly on the other side
of the aisle, when we should be
looking at building a record that we can
look back at with pride.
I very much hope that as we get into the last weeks of this campaign that we
will challenge
the leadership of our candidates running for President as to
how they stand on these
issues. I think there is no comparison here between
the Vice President, who in his entire
career in Government has shown
leadership and sensitivity to the interrelationship between
all the
environmental issues, and the Governor, who has a record that none of us want to
emulate from the State of Texas.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman for
his
comments.
Two observations. One, I appreciate his reference to growing smarter in terms
of wiser
use of our resources and avoiding unplanned growth and sprawl.
The State of Maryland has recently been cited as another national model for
experimenting
with this. And I think it is important that, unlike what some
of the people who are
attempting to be critical of this, there is no effort
with smart growth to deny choices to the
American public. The notion here is
to give them more opportunities in terms of where they
live, how they move.
If the only way somebody can get their children to a soccer game or to school
is to drive
them, if they cannot walk, if they cannot cycle, if they cannot
get there on their own, if they
have no access to transit, it narrows their
choices. If there are neighborhoods that are
disposable, hollowed out, it
narrows the choices.
One of the things that I am, I guess, most appreciative of for the Vice
President is taking
the risk that some people will try and turn these
concepts on their head and suggest that
somehow this is a war on the suburbs
or it is trying to deny choices, when nothing could be
further from the
truth than trying to promote more opportunity.
I am prepared to talk a little further on clean air, but I notice we have
been joined by my
colleague the gentleman from Southern California (Mr.
Sherman).
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. SHERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I just want to associate myself with the comments
of my
colleagues. I could speak a minute on this issue, but I think I would
simply repeat what the
rest of them have said. I have some comments about
some of the fiscal issues and if the
gentleman has time at the end and wants
to yield time to me to discuss that point, I will.
Otherwise, I thank the
gentleman on the other side for agreeing to allow me to have 5
minutes at
the end of his remarks.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I continue to yield to the gentleman from New
York (Mr.
Hinchey).
Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, let me make an observation, if I may, in connection
with the
comments that were made just a moment ago by the gentleman from
Maryland (Mr.
Cardin).
I think that occasionally, if we look at these issues superficially, we fail
to recognize the
co-relationship between issues that sometimes are taken
separately and distinctly and not
joined together.
The gentleman mentioned the relationship, for example, between the
environment and
energy. And there is a clear nexus there, obviously, that
needs to be dealt with. And in that
regard, it gives another opportunity to
talk a little bit about the initiatives of Vice President
Gore and his
leadership on both environmental and energy issues in a way that addresses
the complexities of both.
For example, we know that we are increasingly dependent upon foreign oil. I
think we are
importing now something in the neighborhood of 56 percent of
the oil that we consume
here in the United States from outside of our
borders. This becomes, at that level, an issue
even of national security. We
are far too dependent upon outside sources for the fossil fuel
that we
depend upon for transportation, for heating, and for a variety of other uses.
Now, that is something that we have to deal with. We have to gain energy
independence to
a greater degree. We have to reduce our reliance on foreign
oil. How do we do that? One
of the ways in which we do it is to develop
alternative sources of energy. And this is an
issue on which Vice President
Gore has taken a leadership position that in fact was far
ahead of its time.
He was talking about these things when it was not apparent to most
people
that it would be necessary to take any action in this area.
For example, he was talking about the need to develop photovoltaic cells, for
example, and
direct solar energy for the creation of less electricity and,
by the way, in so doing, creating
a vast new industry for America which will
enable us to address other issues, such as our
balance of trade, balance of
trade deficit.
If we are developing new sources of energy for a world that is going to be
crying out for
new sources of energy, that enables us to deal with our own
energy situation more
intelligently, reduce our dependence upon fossil fuel,
create energy alternatively, and at the
same time produce a product that
will be desired by virtually every other country in the
world.
We have an opportunity, in other words, to take a leadership position here in
a new
industrial venture that will enable us to accomplish a variety of
objectives in a very concise
and particular way. And for that I think Vice
President Gore deserves a great deal of
credit for stepping out in front on
this issue and directing the way toward its solutions.
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. BLUMENAUER. I yield to the gentleman from California.
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding. I say
to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Hinchey) that I could
not agree with him more.
It is rather tragic at a time now when we see the great peril that the Middle
East is again
embroiled in as the peace negotiations falter and the acts of
violence are currently playing
themselves out, and we think that if at the
end of the Iraqi war if we had made a
commitment that we would not ever
again put ourselves in a position where we had to
send American soldiers in
the pursuit of oil or to protect the Kuwaiti fields or to protect the
Saudi
Arabia fields, or what have you, that we would have pursued this vast array of
alternatives that the Vice President has been talking about almost his
entire public life, that
we could have, in fact, pursued alternatives in
energy consumption, in conservation, in
technologies that would have, in
fact, really made us independent and insulated us in these
kinds of
situations.
But, in fact, we chose to go another route. And that was massive increases in
consumption, the failure to go for the efficiencies, the failure to
recognize what was readily
available on the market and use that here
domestically or to sell it overseas. And yet, even
now we continue to see
the other side of the aisle and Governor Bush suggesting, if we
just had one
more drilling of oil.
The fact is we have increased the production of oil in America over the last
10 years rather
dramatically. The hottest oil play in the world is the Gulf
of Mexico. Oil companies have
spent tens of billions of dollars to be able
to go in and to drill there, and it has obviously
been worth their while. It
is a fantastic find because of new technologies in that field. But it
has
not made us any more independent. It has not made us any more independent. It
has
continued the addiction that we have had to foreign oil.
And so, rather than get our house in shape here and get our country in shape
as the
gentleman has suggested and as the Vice President has suggested over
the last decade,
we have done just the opposite, we have made ourselves more
dependent. And like any
other addiction, it is very difficult to break. But
we ought to stop it at this point and
recognize the peril it places us in
internationally, the peril it places our economy in, and the
unneeded
expenditures by Americans for energy that is not necessarily simply because of
the waste that is involved.
That was clearly one of the choices that was presented in the debate last
night about
whether or not we embrace this in terms of the future and in
terms of the knowledge that
we now have about energy efficiencies,
conservations and technologies or whether we just
say, `Let's go back to
what we were doing in Pennsylvania at the turn of the century and
just put
another hole in the ground.' It is wonderful to get the oil, but it does not
relieve the
dependence and there is no indication that it ever will relieve
the dependence unless, in
fact, we go to these new technologies. I just want
to thank the gentleman for making that
point.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Reclaiming my time briefly, I could not agree more with my
distinguished colleague from California. He points out that we are, in fact,
extracting more
energy from more sources. But if we as a Nation that
represents 5 or 6 percent of the
world's population continue to use 25, 30
percent of the energy supply and if our primary
bets are on fossil fuels
that are, in fact, finite no matter what some would hope, we are on
a
downward path that can only lead to disaster.
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. When 70 percent of the import is for
transportation,
we deny the fact that readily available today at these
market prices, with no compromise
in safety, speed or technology, a car is
available, you can get 35 miles to the gallon. Not a
big push from where we
are today, but a dramatic change in our consumption pattern and
our
independence, if you will. That could just be done today with essentially no
sacrifice
being made. Not a dramatic runup in the price of an automobile,
not a dramatic
compromise in the safety for you or your families and your
comfort or anything else. It is
available today.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Could those vehicles, energy-efficient vehicles be made here
in the
United States by American workers?
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. Those vehicles could be made here with no
change.
The difference is that all the advances that we have made on engine
efficiency, the
dramatic increases that we have made in efficiencies of the
internal combustion engine
have been loaded up with weight so that you can
drive a bigger and a heavier car rather
than returning the benefit to the
economy, to the consumer and to the environment. We just
decided we would
take all the improvement and we would negate it by putting 9,000
pounds on
top of it. So here we get what the industry said they could do, what many of us
in the Congress wanted them to do, what the environment needs them to do,
and then we
just larded it up. So rather than driving an ordinary car, we
took all those benefits and just
put them in, if you will, to style. That is
costing the American consumer a huge amount of
money, a huge amount of money
for no real benefit at all.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Is it possible that if we had at least studied the CAFE
standards, that
if we would have applied the CAFE standards across all of
today's fleet, not having
massive exemptions, that we could have actually
had the best of both worlds?
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. It is all there. It is there. But obviously
when we
suggest to them that they can do this voluntarily, just like when
George Bush suggested to
all those old polluters in Texas to just do it
voluntarily, they chose to do it another way.
They chose to do it to
maximize profit and forget the public interest, forget the needs to
clean up
the environment, forget the air quality, forget the economy of people who are
reaching into their pocket to pay $2 for gasoline in a car that is getting
them 20 miles to
the gallon when, in fact, they could be getting 35 with
none of these trade-offs.
It could be done here, it could be done with American labor. They are the
best
autoworkers in the world. That is not even a contest. But it is not
being done because
huge, huge cars now are cash cows for the automobile
companies and that is more
important to them than the public safety, the
environment, household incomes, expenses or
our dependency on foreign oil.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Reclaiming my time, I was struck by your comment about the
voluntary emission reduction plan in Texas. This is one of the innovations
that has been
cited by Governor Bush under his leadership. There was
legislation that was introduced,
he supported, Texas Senate bill 766 that
took effect more than a year ago. It has been
touted as an approach to
voluntarily clean up these 760 old plants that were grandfathered
in. I find
it fascinating that as a result of this effort, there have been 73 so-called
pioneer
companies out of the 760 that have taken part, that the majority of
these plants, even of
the 73 that took part, there are only 28 that even
applied for permits, only 19 received
them and only five of these volunteers
with permits that actually required reductions. So
there are actually only
five out of 760 plants that are actually producing any result and it is
something like 0.3 percent.
Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California. That is the exact point. When you say to
these
companies, there is going to be voluntary compliance, if you can do
it, do it, we would all
appreciate it. You are also sending the same signal
that says, `And if by the way you
continue to pollute, that's okay, too. If
you choose to clean up, that would be nice, but if
you choose not to clean
up, it's the same.'
Before we had the Clean Air Act and I know the gentleman is very interested
in the Clean
Water Act, before we had the Clean Air and the Clean Water Act,
I do not remember
companies walking in and saying, `I'm going to voluntarily
clean up the arsenic in the
water,' or `I'm going to voluntarily clean up
the benzene in the air, the lead in the air or the
pollution in the Hudson
River.' I do not remember that happening. It was only because of
the Clean
Air Act, the Clean Water Act that these companies stepped forward. They did it
because it was the law of the land. What we have seen for 6 years in this
Congress under
a Republican majority and what we have seen in the State of
Texas is continued efforts by
corporate entities to lean on the political
system so it is not the law of the land. And if it is
not the law of the
land, you will not clean up the Hudson River, you will not clean up the
Sacramento River, you will not clean up the Mississippi River, you will not
clean up these
areas that America holds as treasures.
And so as the gentleman points out, when Governor Bush got all done with his
volunteer
stepping forward, this is like a bad film of the Army: I need
these volunteers, now
everybody take one step forward and everybody steps
back and one guy is left there as
the volunteer. This is like a bad movie.
If we work at this rate on cleaning up pollution in
America that they are in
Texas, we will all be choking to death. It is not happening. The
figures
point it out. The Governor could sit there last night and say, `We have a plan
and
it's working.' Well, if this is his definition of `working,' there is a
horror story in store for the
American public, because that does not address
the needs of the cities and others who
have air pollution problems and toxic
problems. That is just unacceptable.
We have struggled in this Congress to try to get entities to step forward and
be
responsible for Superfund sites, for water pollution and air pollution. I
think the gentleman
makes a very important point about the so-called
voluntary program in Texas. You
voluntarily get not to obey the law is what
you do. That is what you get to volunteer to do.
Mr. HINCHEY. The gentleman from California, I think, makes very important
points about it
as well. It is even true that after you require it in the
law, if you do not have proper
enforcement of the law, even then you will
find some of these corporations that were
responsible for the pollution in
the first instance resisting taking the appropriate and
responsible action
to clean up the mess that they made.
The gentleman mentioned the Hudson River. That is one clear example where you
have
had PCB contamination now for decades and the responsible parties have
not done
anything to address that pollution. In fact, what they have done is
they have come here to
the Congress, they have gotten Members of the
Congress to introduce amendments to
pieces of legislation which will, in
fact, delay any act of responsibility on their part. So not
only do
voluntary actions not work but in addition to the law we have found in our
experience that you also have to have effective enforcement. No, absolutely
not, they are
not going to do any of these things voluntarily because it
costs them money, and it should
cost them money because they made enormous
profits in creating that pollution in the first
place in most instances. But
in addition to having good, decent, powerful laws, you also
have to have
consistent and effective and honest enforcement.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr.
Markey) who has been a leader on a whole host of environmental and energy
issues.
Mr. MARKEY. I thank the gentleman very much, and I thank him for holding this
very
important special order.
Mr. Speaker, on September 29 of this year, Governor Bush of Texas, attempting
to
reassure the public that there was no choice to make between oil
production and
preserving wilderness waxed eloquent on the subject of the
Arctic Refuge.
`We should open up a small fraction of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
for responsible
oil and gas exploration. The Vice President says he would
rather protect this refuge than
gain the energy. But this is a false choice.
We can do both,' said Mr. Bush, `taking out the
energy and leaving only
footprints.' Leaving only footprints. A wonderful image, is it not,
leaving
only footprints in the Arctic Refuge? Like Robert Frost and his little cat's
feet or
Robinson Crusoe discovering he was not alone when he spied the
telltale footprints of
Friday on the shore of sand before the high tide
washed them away.
An image of footprints in the Arctic Refuge that the petroleum industry would
leave and
would love to have linger in our minds, these footprints of Friday
or cat's paws in the sand,
children walking along the beach. Footprints.
It is against the law, of course, as we know, to drill for oil in the Arctic
Refuge and the only
way that will ever change is if the industry manages to
get Congress to change the law.
They are very resourceful, this industry.
They have put together a dream ticket in the
person of an oilman for
President and an oilman for Vice President. And now they are
engaging in
industrial strength poetry as they try to win a license to destroy the
wilderness
of one of the last places on God-created Earth that man has yet
to try to improve.
So Governor Bush says his plans would only impact about 8 percent of the
refuge. Well, it
turns out that what they want to drill is in the biological
heart of the refuge, where polar
bears den and caribou give birth. Imagine
your doctor telling you, `This won't hurt. We're
only going to drill in a
small fraction of your body, only about 8 percent, only around the
region of
your heart, only that 8 percent of your body. That is the only place we're going
to
operate. Don't worry, we won't touch the rest of you. Only that 8
percent. The heart.' The
heart of this refuge.
Now, let us take a look at the industrial footprints that have already been
left on the North
Slope by environmentally sensitive oil companies which
want to drill in the heart of the
refuge. These pictures are from Dead Horse
and from Prudhoe Bay. They are part of a
vast industrial complex that
generates on average one toxic spill a day of oil or chemicals
or industrial
waste of some kind. It seeps into the tundra and becomes part of a new and
improved North Slope as it is viewed by the oil industry. This energy
sacrifice zone already
spews more nitrogen oxide pollution into the Arctic
each year than the city of Washington,
D.C.
That is all of the pollution created in Washington, D.C. is not as great as
the pollution
created by these sites already in this Arctic North Slope
area. As we can see, the drilling
for oil takes a huge amount of equipment
for roads, for pipes, for wells, for pumping. All
the trappings of a massive
industrial undertaking have been hauled or flown or barged to
the North
Slope around Deadhorse and Prudhoe Bay. The companies have been able to
afford to bring everything in to such a remote location because today they
are making
money. But guess what? Tomorrow it will still be there, and
tomorrow and tomorrow and
tomorrow. All this stuff never leaves. The roads,
the pipes, the dry holes, the bulldozers,
the spent wells, the gravel pits,
it all stays. And together, it makes up a footprint that can
only be
described as a world-class mess, and it is going to stay that way because once
the industry starts making money up there, the last thing they are going to
do is to go into
debt in order to clean it up.
The industrial footprint extends for miles. When it is overlayed on the
refuge, we can see
that it would end any notion of this treasured corner of
God Almighty's earth remaining
wild, untrammeled, and untouched.
Let me finish by noting that this is Federal land that has been set aside for
all of the people
of the United States. It does not belong to the oil
companies. It does not belong to just one
State. It is a public wilderness
treasure. We are all the trustees. As far as I am concerned,
we are going to
have to work as hard as we can in order to make sure that this
incomparable
wilderness is not touched. There are plenty of other places that can be
explored in Alaska; and as Joe Lieberman said in his debate, if we just
increase fuel
efficiency of an automobile three miles a gallon, it would
produce more oil than all of this
Arctic wilderness.
Let me conclude and compliment the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer) for
holding this important special order. I think all of these issues have to be
discussed.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman from Colorado (Mr.
Udall)
joining us, and I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr.
Udall), who has been
active in these issues since long before he came to
this Chamber.
Mr. UDALL of Colorado. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Oregon (Mr.
Blumenauer) for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I wanted to associate myself with the comments of my colleagues
and in
particular acknowledge the articulate and eloquent comments from the
gentleman from
Massachusetts (Mr. Markey) about the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. As I think he
pointed out, the geologists tell us we have probably
something along the order of 6
months' supply in this area, and to me it
would be a big mistake for that short-term supply
of oil to trample an area
that was described in such fashion. It is a trade-off that is not
really
acceptable, I think.
What is acceptable? Well, if we look at what Vice President Gore has been
talking about,
what is acceptable is to throw ourselves into all of these
opportunities that we have to
develop different types of energy production
methods that are really exciting technologies
out there. One hundred years
ago, when petroleum was discovered, there were only two
or three obvious
uses for it. What did we do as a country? What did we do as a society?
We
said let us invest in research and development.
The Federal Government stepped in, and now we have almost countless uses for
petroleum. In fact, some historians, I think, will tell us that we wasted it
in our automobiles
in the latter half of the 20th century.
We have very promising technologies in solar, as demonstrated by
phototechnologies. We
have wind technologies where the price of kilowatts is
coming down dramatically. Biogas.
We ought to be throwing all of those kinds
of technologies into the mix at this time. I think
we are going to see some
enormously exciting things happen.
It is a false choice: it is going to hurt our economy, or it is going to hurt
our environment. It
is truly a false choice and the Vice President is
saying, look, we have incredible
opportunities in the developing world to
take these technologies to places like China and
Indonesia and India, and in
the process do right by our economy, do right by the economic
development
opportunities. So the Vice President looking ahead, oil is going to be a thing
of the past; the geologists tell us that those supplies are limited, that in
the next 100 years
oil as we know it will not be available to us. Let us
look ahead, follow the leadership and
the vision of the Vice President.