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HEADLINE:  TESTIMONY March 16, 1999 FRANK TORRES LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL CONSUMERS UNION 
HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW 
BANKRUPTCY REVISION 
BODY:
 WRITTEN STATEMENT OF FRANK TORRES LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL CONSUMERS UNION BEFORE 
THE COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE 
JUDICIARY UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MARCH 16, 1999 Chairman Gekas, 
Members of the Committee, my name Frank Torres and I am Legislative Counsel in 
the Washington office of Consumers Union, the not-for-profit publisher of 
Consumer Reports magazine. Thank you for this opportunity to speak you about 
bankruptcy reform, and in particular ways to give consumers the opportunity to better understand 
the credit offered to them, and get at practices of the credit industry that 
stack the deck against consumers.  Consumers Union, as well as a wide range of 
other organizations, including groups representing women and children, lower 
income consumers, labor, the victims of crimes, and the civil rights community, 
are concerned about the impact of 
bankruptcy on 
hardworking Americans.  One way to stem the number of 
bankruptcies is to help people avoid getting into trouble in the first place. Just because 
American families are using the 
bankruptcy system, does not mean that they are abusing the system. Rather, these are 
families facing job loss or downsizing, medical expenses they cannot afford to 
pay, and in some cases, these are women and children going through divorce. Not 
all have benefited in the same way from what has been characterized as these 
good economic times. In fact, many are just now seeing an increase in earnings, 
and income inequality between the top earners and the rest of the workforce 
appears to be increasing.  
A new report from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York concluded that debt 
burdens among cardholders is the reason for the recent rise in bad debt. New 
borrowers are riskier (and more profitable for the credit industry as they get 
charged higher rates) owe substantially more relative to their income, so even 
small drops in income can cause financial distress. These borrowers are more 
likely to work in relatively unskilled jobs. Delinquencies are higher among 
such workers, the report found, because their income is more closely tied to 
the business cycle. Thus, a mild economic slowdown can trigger a rise in bad 
debt. It seems disingenuous for creditors to complain about the high number of 
bankruptcies when their behavior encourages 
bankruptcies.  First, work to raise all boats.  Provide hard working American 
families the tools they need to fully participate in society, including: - 
Providing for meaningful health care and retirement security.  - Ensuring 
access to appropriate financial products through true marketplace competition 
and that taxpayer-backed financial institutions offer basic banking, accounts.  
- Eliminating scams that take money from consumers, and are often targeted at 
the elderly, minorities and lower income consumers.  Second, level the playing 
field.  Credit card issuers can change the terms of the deal at any time.  And 
they have, finding new ways to generate fee income by raising fees and changing 
other payment terms such as due dates and grace periods. Some may not know how 
much carrying a balance and making a minimum payment will cost them. Any 
reform should ensure consumers have adequate information about their choices with 
respect to 
consumer credit. responsible debtors are not penalized, and minors are 
protected. What can be done?  Enhance disclosures to consumer about the 
consequences of making minimum payments. Many lenders encourage minimum 
payments that do not pay down the loan. Currently, credit card statements, 
unlike mortgage loans and car loans, do not disclose the amortization rates or 
the total interest that will be paid the cardholder makes only the minimum 
monthly payment. Using a typical minimum monthly payment rate on a credit card, 
it would take '34 years to pay off a $2,500 loan, and total payments would 
exceed 300 percent of the original principle. Jane Bryant Quinn quote.  People 
don't understand how it works and the credit industry knows it and acts on it.  
Ensure that no credit cards are provided to minors 
unless there is demonstrated ability to repay or a parent or other adult 
cosigns. The credit industry has targeted students and minors with little or no 
income. Direct solicitation to both college and high school students have 
intensified. Cards are available to almost any student -- no income, no credit 
history and no parental signature required. What credit problems mean, continue 
to pay high interest if late on payment, raise cost of buying a home, etc.  
"Targeting Teens: You Never Forget Your First Card!" Most teens never forget their first love. Nor do they forget the issuer who 
dares to accept their application. Their brand loyalty and propensity to spend 
make consumers in their mid-to late teens priced prospects for many card 
issuers." Agenda for Card Marketing Conference '98, November 9-11, 1998.  
Prohibit penalties or card cancellations for consumers who pay the full balance 
owned on a credit in any month. Another way creditors increase their fee income 
is by penalizing consumers who pay off their balances. Several companies have 
instituted charges or even canceled credit cards for customers who pay in full 
each month, preferring customers with large credit balances who pay minimum 
monthly payments.  Rebecca had a MasterCard account with Mellon Bank for 14 
years.  She says that she that she had been 
"diligently paying off debt," so she had not used her card in some time, 
"and in fact had not been overly, zealous in checking my bill." But last July, shoe looked at her statement and noticed a charge of 
approximately $50. When She called the bank to 
ask what the charge was for, she was told that Mellon was charging her for not 
suing her card in six months. The customer service representative advised her 
to use her card more often in order to avoid the charge, but Rebecca felt that 
her 
"$30 annual fee and interest on her remaining balance should be enough," so she told the representative that she was canceling her account. Though she 
had been a customer for so many years, no one tried to talk Rebecca out of the 
cancellation.  Require full disclosure of security interests on credit card 
purchases that could lead to later threats of repossession of household items.  
Enhance disclosure concerning 
"teaser" rates. Credit solicitations sometimes offer misleading 
"teaser rates of interest. Teaser rates are designed to encourage consumers to 
run up balances when the rate is low, but often the balances will inevitably be 
paid back 
at a much higher rate or hidden terms, such as one late payment, triggering 
higher rates.  Third, do something about the abusive practices of debt 
collectors.  People and families trying to work with their creditors to pay 
down their debts are sometimes turned away. Mr. Larry Nuss, testifying last 
week for the Credit Union National Association on 
bankruptcy reform stated that the action of debt collectors is a primary reason why people file 
for 
bankruptcy. It is unfair that on the one hand creditors argue that debtors are 
irresponsible, then shun those that seek to work out payment plans rather than 
avoid their debt. Moreover, it seems counterproductive to pursue aggressive 
collection activities that effectively drive those willing to continue to make 
payments into 
bankruptcy.  
"Client rate collection practices as the No. I reason why they file for 
bankruptcy," according to the 
National Foundation for Consumer Credit, Dogged by the Debt Collectors: 
Bankruptcy Often no Protection from Vicious Hounding: Negotiation is Fading Option, USA 
Today, Christine Dugas, Nov. 20, 1998 Fourth, reexamine the need for 
reform.  The credit community has effectively removed the 
"stigma" of 
bankruptcy. Perhaps a Texas court best summed this up: The court recently saw evidence 
that during the first two years of a five-year Chapter 13 plan; the debtors 
received 53 credit card solicitation. These actions and frequent advertisements 
by various creditors that the credit community no longer shuns persons who take 
bankruptcy, but rather actively solicit their business. The credit community has 
effectively removed the 
"stigma" of 
bankruptcy. Bankruptcy judges and most 
bankruptcy lawyers have always advocated that 
bankruptcy be a last resort 
for those in financial difficulty. By making post-bankruptcy credit readily available, the credit community is encouraging those with 
financial difficulty to take 
bankruptcy. The credit community should not complain because its actions were successful 
and resulted in additional 
bankruptcy filings. In re Bain, 223 B.R. 343, 344 n2 (Bankr. N.D. Tex. 1998).  
"Guaranteed Approved" Visa or MasterCard 
"Regardless of Past Credit History or 
Bankruptcy." Advertisement for credit cards from the Fair Credit Association.  
"Have hanks turned their backs on you?" You qualify for a Capital One MasterCard 
"even if you've been turned down in the past." Advertisement for a Capital One credit card.  New information shows that fewer 
filing for 
bankruptcy can repay.  There is new information from the American 
Bankruptcy Institute that finds that only three percent of people who 
file under Chapter 7 can afford to repay their debt. This finding contradicts 
earlier industry funded studies that contend that a higher percentage of people 
filing for 
bankruptcy can repay.  There is nothing in the bill that requires that any cost savings 
from 
bankruptcy reform be passed on to consumers.  Conclusion It is vital to proceed with caution and 
deliberation. By allowing creditors to collect more debt. 
bankruptcy reforms could encourage credit card banks to market and extend credit more 
aggressively. Thus, it is quite possible that the 
reforms proposed could actually aggravate the problem of consumer financial 
insolvency.  To the extent that there is actual abuse of the system by those 
who have the ability to repay, perhaps now is the time to aive more discretion 
to 
bankruptcy judges. At a minimum, careful consideration should be given to their 
suggestions as to how to make the system better. It is our understanding that 
the Committee 
will be hearing from 
bankruptcy Judges in another panel.  
Bankruptcy is complex and there are many other issues and controversies -- child support 
and alimony, cramdowns, reaffirmations, creditor motions, dischargeability. We 
will continue to work to resolve these issues in a reasonable way.  Once again, 
I want to thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. Please let 
me know if we can be of any further assistance to the Committee.  
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