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Copyright 2000 Star Tribune  
Star Tribune (Minneapolis, MN)

March 12, 2000, Sunday, Metro Edition

SECTION: NEWS; Minnesota Poll; Pg. 1A

LENGTH: 2262 words

HEADLINE: Improve transportation? Most say go for it;
Poll respondents from outstate Minnesota and the Twin Cities area voiced similar levels of support for spending to improve roads and transit.

BYLINE: Laurie Blake; Staff Writer

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Most Minnesotans strongly support building and improving highways, but a majority also supports commuter rail, busways and light rail, in that order.

     Those are the findings of a Star Tribune Minnesota Poll taken statewide among 1,021 adults Feb. 23-27.

      It found that 78 percent of state residents support building more highways and improving existing ones. At the same time, 69 percent would like to provide commuter train service on existing freight tracks, 62 percent support more lanes for buses and 57 percent back construction of light rail in the Twin Cities area.

    Fifty-five percent said roads should be the top priority for public funds, while nearly four in 10 view transit improvements as the No. 1 priority for funding. And although 54 percent said they think the state should help pay for light rail, 41 percent listed it as the least important spending priority.

     The poll results are especially relevant this spring as Gov. Jesse Ventura and legislators consider several proposals for increasing state spending on roads and transit.

     Transportation Commissioner Elwyn Tinklenberg said the poll tells him the public wants action on transportation improvements. And the poll tells legislators that there are no excuses for not spending more for roads and transit, he said.

    "You've got a situation where the governor supports transportation investment, where the people support transportation investment . . . the money is there . . .," said Tinklenberg.

      House Majority Leader Tim Pawlenty, R-Eagan, who would like to derail the Hiawatha Avenue light-rail project, said the poll shows that House Republicans have placed their emphasis in the right place: on road improvements. If, as Tinklenberg suggests, the poll is a public mandate for action, then Tinklenberg "better start putting more emphasis on road expansion," Pawlenty said.

    Senate Transportation Committee Chairwoman Carol Flynn, DFL-Minneapolis, said the poll results in support of commuter rail, busways and light rail tell her that "people understand that roads can't be the only answer." She said she is encouraged by the unwavering support for light rail, even though GOP House members have spent a year bashing it.

      Support for various road and transit improvements does not dramatically differ between residents of outstate Minnesota and the Twin Cities area. The poll found that 59 percent of outstate respondents and 51 percent of metro-area respondents would put roads first for public funding. Eleven percent of outstate respondents ranked commuter rail the first priority for public funding, compared with 13 percent of metro-area respondents. Fourteen percent of outstate respondents ranked light rail first for funding, compared with 15 percent in the metro area.

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Roads

     The poll found that highways drew the most strongly held opinions: While more than three-fourths support building or improving highways, 61 percent of the state's adults strongly support the notion. By comparison, 44 percent strongly support commuter rail, 39 percent strongly support buses and 34 percent strongly support light rail.

    "We need more highways instead of that tram that they are putting in over in Minneapolis that we will all be paying through the nose for," said poll respondent Edward Lockner, 74, of Maplewood, a retired commercial-industrial real estate broker.

     "I think we've let the bridges and roads really go and we aren't keeping up with the population at all," Lockner said.

        Rochelle Calvin, 64, of St. Paul, said she thinks it's important to build light rail to get some people out of their cars. But she thinks road improvements should come first.      "Human nature being what it is, I don't think a large segment of the population will leave their cars," said Calvin, who is the campaign director of the United Jewish Fund and Council of St. Paul. Improvements should start in the heaviest traffic areas, she said.

     Officials said the demand for road improvements is no surprise.

    "The fact of the matter is most people still get around most of the time by car," Pawlenty said, adding, "road improvements, particularly in the metropolitan area, have been relatively neglected in the last 20 years."

           Senate Minority Leader Dick Day, R-Owatonna, who is known for his efforts to turn off ramp meters temporarily to test their effectiveness, agreed."We are so far behind in our major highways," Day said.

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Light rail

     Sixty percent of respondents said it is very or somewhat important for the metropolitan area to have light rail.   Those results haven't changed since the same question was posed by the Minnesota Poll a year ago.

      The belief that the state should help pay the cost of light rail is also unchanged: a majority favor it now, just as they did last year and in 1990.

       Poll respondent Linda Klein, 52, the clerk for May Township in Washington County, is among those who think light rail is important for the Twin Cities.

     "I think we are way behind the times," Klein said. "When you travel to other areas where [rail] really works, like Atlanta, you see that it seems to be a really efficient way of moving people from one place to another, as opposed to what we see in this city."

    Republican opponents of the Hiawatha project take note of the poll's finding that residents place public funding for light rail behind funding for roads, commuter rail and busways.

   Light-rail supporters are awaiting federal permission to move the 11.4-mile Hiawatha Avenue line into the final design stage. The $548 million line would run between downtown Minneapolis and the Mall of America. A decision on full federal funding is expected next fall.

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Busways

    Providing more lanes and roads dedicated to buses appeals to 62 percent of the state's adults. The state Transportation Department is studying the feasibility of these bus-only roads.

     Busways are a practical approach for dealing with traffic congestion and limited parking, said Linda Prail, 44, a St. Paul resident and bus rider.

      "I think they make sense because they allow people to travel faster as kind of a reward for doing something that is not individual and doing something that's for the common good," said Prail, an administrator for the state Health Department in St. Paul.

     Because bus use can reduce pollution, "anything that can be done to promote the use of buses is a plus," she said.

     "If money weren't an issue, I think light rail would be a great idea to pursue rapidly," she said. "To me, it makes more sense to spend [limited money] on improving what we've got."

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Commuter rail

    Of the transit options presented in the poll, commuter rail drew the strongest support: 69 percent said they support it.

     Anoka County Commissioner Paul McCarron, one of the primary promoters of the proposed Northstar commuter rail line between Minneapolis and St. Cloud, said the poll results conform to the public support they hear in person from residents. "When we've surveyed using our own methods, we've run into high numbers for it, too," he said.

The Northstar line is the state Transportation Department's priority if legislators make funding available for commuter rail. The project would require $223 million in state and federal funding. The goal is to have the line running by 2003, when the light-rail line would begin service.

      Lester Nelson, 71, of Georgetown, is a retired railroad clerk for the Northern Pacific and Burlington Northern railroads who heartily endorses commuter rail.

     He remembers a train called the "dinky," which looked like an oversized streetcar. It operated from Fargo to Duluth, also carried freight and mail and even stopped to pick up milk.

    That service worked well, Nelson said, and he thinks the same principle would be a success today. "Using the rail that is available, that is down there now, I think that ought to be able to move a lot of people," he said.

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Highways? Busways? Commuter rail? Light rail? Minnesotans support all of them

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The Minnesota Poll found that Minnesotans continue to think it's important for the Twin Cities metro area to have light rail, and continue to believe the state should help pay for it. The poll also found that highway funding is the highest priority for transportation funding.

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Building, improving highways

Support 78%

Oppose 17%

No opinion 5%

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Providing more busways

Support 62%

Oppose 29%

No opinion 9%

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Providing commter rail

Support 69%

Oppose 23%

No opinion 8%

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Providing light rail

Support 57%

Oppose 33%

No opinion 10%

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Source: Star Tribune Minnesota Poll of 1,021 adults statewide by telephone Feb. 23-27. Margin of sampling error: no greater than 3.1 percentage points, plus or minus.

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Most back Twin Cities light-rail funding; support for highways tops importance list

During the past two years, the Minnesota Poll has found that most Minnesotans think it's important for the Twin Cities to have a light-rail system. The poll finds that most people support public funding for light rail, too. The most recent poll found that support for better highways is strongest, although a majority support various other mass transit ideas, too.

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Twin Cities light rail important

Most Minnesotans think it's important for the Twin Cities to have light rail, the Minnesota Poll found. For the past decade they also have thought the state should help pay for such a system.

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"Should the state of Minnesota help pay for a light-rail transit system in the Twin Cities metro area? "

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           1990 1999 2000

Yes         58% 55% 54%

No          35   36   38

No opinion   7    9    8

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"How important is it for the Twin Cities metro area to have a light-rail transit system? Would you say it is very important, somewhat important, not too important, or not important at all?"

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                    1999 2000

Very                 25% 29%

Somewhat             35   31

Not too important    17   14

Not important at all 15   17

No opinion            8    9

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Strongest support is for new and better highways . . .

While the majority of Minnesotans support all four transportation improvements -- highways, busways, commuter rail and light rail -- the strongest backing is for building more highways and improving the ones we have.

"There are a number of ways to make it easier for people to get from one place to another. For each of the following, please tell me if you support or oppose it."

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                             Strongly Support Oppose Strongly Don't

                              support                   oppose     know

"Building more highways and

improving existing ones."       61%       17       7      10         5

"Providing more lanes and

roads dedicated to buses."      39%       23      16      13         9

"Providing commuter rail lines,

that is, passenger trains that

run on existing railroad tracks

during rush hours between

the Twin Cities and

outlying towns."                44%       25      13      10         8

"Building light rail, that is, an

electric trolley system within

the metro area."                34%       23      14      19        10

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. . . and roads get the nod for public funding

Minnesotans think that working on the state's road system is the most important one for public funding. Nearly four in 10 think one of the mass transit modes is most important, the Minnesota Poll found.

"Keeping in mind the four transportation options we just talked about, that is, roads, busways, commuter rail and light rail, please rank the four options in the order that you think they should receive public funding, going from the one that is most important to the one that is least important."

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            Most important Least important

Roads           55%              17%

Busways         12               21

Commuter rail   12               18

Light rail      15               41

No opinion       6                3

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Source: Star Tribune Minnesota Poll of 1,021 adults statewide by telephone Feb. 23-27. Margin of sampling error: no greater than 3.1 percentage points, plus or minus.

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How poll was conducted

     Results are based on the Star Tribune Minnesota Poll conducted Feb. 23-27. A random-digit-dial telephone sample of 1,021 adult Minnesotans was interviewed.

     Results for the poll were weighted for age, gender and education to make sure the sample reflected 1996 census estimates for Minnesota's adult population. Weighting accounted for household size _ interviewers selected one respondent randomly from each household _ and the number of phone lines going into a household.

     For results based on 1,021 interviews, one can be 95 percent confident that error because of sampling will be no more than plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. Margins of sampling error for smaller groups, such as Democrats or Republicans, are larger.

     Results also may be influenced by such things as question wording and order, and the practical difficulties of conducting any poll, which include the effect of news events on public opinion.

     The Market Solutions Group of Minneapolis conducted the interviews for the Star Tribune. Rob Daves directs the Minnesota Poll. Readers can e-mail comments about the poll to mnpoll@startribune.com.

     Findings also are available by appointment at the Star Tribune, 425 Portland Av. S., Minneapolis. More information about the poll and how it is conducted is available on the Internet at http://www.startribune.com.



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