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May 17, 2000, Wednesday

SECTION: PREPARED TESTIMONY

LENGTH: 1159 words

HEADLINE: PREPARED TESTIMONY OF STANLEY S. SOKUL DAVIDSON & COMPANY, INC.
 
BEFORE THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW
 
SUBJECT - H.R. 4267: INTERNET TAX REFORM AND REDUCTION ACT OF 2000

BODY:
 Thank you for inviting me to testify today concerning the work of the Advisory Commission on Electronic Commerce. As you know, I was appointed to the Advisory Commission by Senator Lott, and represented electronic commerce companies through the Association for Interactive Media, a trade association of firms that do business on the Web.

I will focus my remarks on the Internet sales tax question, which involves the nature and scope of state powers. First, I would like to point out that states can and do compel in-state businesses collect sales taxes on in-state sales, including Internet sales. So please understand that while the media and others often couch this issue as whether to "tax or not tax" the Internet, that is not the question.

The Internet sales tax issue exists because the states believe their taxing authority should mirror the Internet's borderless nature. This belief, however, goes against the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the Quill case, that states lack the power to force out-of-state sellers to collect sales (or "use") taxes, unless a seller has a physical presence or "nexus" in the taxing state. The Supreme Court concluded that to impose every state's sales tax system upon a multi-state seller would unduly burden interstate commerce.

Thus, the Internet sales tax issue is actually an out-of-state tax collection issue. In the post-Quill context, the issue involves whether and under what circumstances states should receive national tax collection powers.

The states and cities support their pursuit of new national tax collection powers with doomsday scenarios - the destruction of state and local revenue bases and the demise of Main Street businesses. Contrary to these claims, recent Commerce Department data showed Internet retail comprised just 0.6 percent of total retail sales. Furthermore, state coffers and retail sales have been surging due, in large part, to the economy's Internet engine. The majority of the Commission therefore concluded that no dire need existed to rush to provide states with national tax collection powers based on doom and gloom predictions.

The costs Congress should examine include fairness costs, privacy costs, international costs, and protectionism costs. First, the states argue it is unfair that out-of-state companies do not confront the same tax obligations as in-state retailers. The Supreme Court in Quill, however, found greater unfairness would exist should the states get their way. The Supreme Court ruled it would be unconstitutionally unfair for every state to burden out-of-state businesses with disparate tax collection and auditing regimes. Congress' dilemma is to determine which is more unfair- a single state imposing tax burdens on its own businesses, or every state imposing tax burdens on out-of- state businesses.

Privacy is another cost of expanded tax authority that Congress must address. When I go into a Wal-Mart and buy something, I do not have to identify myself and my purchase for the government. Some type of individualized tracking system would be required for a multi-state Internet sales tax regime to collect and remit taxes for the proper jurisdictions. Consumers are already fearful enough of their privacy on the Web. If consumers feel that the government will violate their privacy when they shop online, they are less likely to utilize electronic commerce. The privacy implications of Internet taxation remain largely unexplored. For this reason, the Commission adopted a resolution I offered that urges Congress to study the privacy ramifications very carefully. This resolution was one of the very few to gain the two-thirds supermajority required to be considered a formal recommendation to Congress. (A copy of this recommendation is attached.)

Third, a state Internet sales tax system could have detrimental international ramifications as well. Unless Congress approves an international tax collection treaty - a tax WTO - a new state Internet tax system could not be enforced internationally. For example, Mr. Chairman, Pennsylvania will most likely never gain the power to compel European businesses to collect the Pennsylvania sales tax on Internet sales to Pennsylvania consumers. As such, imposing a web of new sales tax collection burdens on U.S. companies would disadvantage U.S. firms as they sell to the domestic market (and could encourage them to move off shore). This would be a perverse result.

The costs of using tax policy as a protectionist competitive weapon also exist. Entrenched interests will use every means possible to stamp out the new competition that the Internet empowers. It should come as no surprise that the nation's major retail chains are spending millions to back the state governments' national tax collection power quest. The major retailers know that when the states gain national tax powers, new burdens, and new barriers to entry, will be imposed on their electronic commerce competition.

All of these concerns - fairness, privacy, international, and protectionism - lead to a potential significant discrimination against electronic commerce. For all these reasons, the majority of the Commission believed that before granting states the national tax power they seek, Congress should know the costs involved. A majority felt strongly that these costs cannot be known and judged until the states demonstrate in detail how their new national tax powers will be used. Our report therefore urges the states to actually undertake their promised simplification effort first. Only after that occurs, and the operational details of the states' Internet sales tax plans are fully known, will Congress be positioned to judiciously consider their desire to gain expanded tax authority and all of its ramifications.

Finally, I believe this subcommittee should consider that the Internet tax issue is a subset of a larger federalism issue that Congress, and particularly this subcommittee, will repeatedly confront as the Internet continues to mature: Under what circumstances should Congress give state laws national effect in the borderless Internet environment? Should the states' harmonizing their disparate regulatory regimes provide sufficient reason for Congress to grant each regime national reach? The states' response to the Internet thus far trends toward seeking expanded national power, not toward undertaking internal reforms to maintain control within their borders. Does the Internet mean the end of competition among the states - tax competition, regulatory competition, policy competition - through Congress providing states with national powers in exchange for implementing harmonized rules? The key public policy question of the Internet era is not one of taxes, or privacy, or a whole host of other issues - but rather one of the future of federalism.

Thank you again for the opportunity to testify, and I would be pleased to answer any questions you may have.

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