For Immediate Release
Office of the
Press Secretary
August 1, 2002
Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
The James
S. Brady Briefing Room
Audio
12:27 P.M. EDT
MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. The President began
his day today with a briefing from the Central Intelligence
Agency, followed by his usual FBI briefing, and then he convened a
meeting of the Homeland Security Council.
Then the President met in the Oval Office with the King of
Jordan, where they discussed the path to peace in the Middle East.
And then the President dropped by a meeting that his National
Security Advisor was having with the Foreign Minister
of Israel, where they focused on helping to relieve the
humanitarian plight of the Palestinian people.
The President is having lunch now with the Chairman of the
Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury, to discuss the
economy. And later this afternoon the President will sign an
important health measure into law that will attempt to alleviate the
nursing shortage throughout the country, particularly in those
under-served areas where there is a nursing shortage.
One final statement and then I'll be happy to take your
questions. The Senate earlier today had a very important test vote
on passage of trade promotion authority. The President believes that
passage of trade promotion authority will result in more jobs for
America's workers and for America's ranchers. The more markets that
are opened up to the American worker around the world means the more
places American goods and services will be sold, which creates jobs
for Americans right here at home.
The President is very grateful to the Senate for taking action on
trade promotion authority and he'll, of course, look for the final
vote. But a decade-long trend appears to be breaking and a new trend
beginning, where the President will finally have trade promotion
authority.
Q Ari, is the President aware of, did he have any reaction to the
investigation of the home of a former Fort Detrick scientist in the
anthrax scare?
MR. FLEISCHER: That's the first I've heard of this. I don't have
any information on it, Bill. Scott.
Q The President made pretty clear in the photo op he
wasn't budging on Iraq, he was going to tell the King he's
still -- he's adamant about a regime change. The other day the King
called this, the idea of an attack on Iraq, somewhat ludicrous. Did
he express any of these objections to the President in this meeting
today?
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think you heard in the public session the
tenor of the conversation between the two leaders. The President
does feel very strongly about this matter. I think the American
people do, as well, and the President, as he indicated when he spoke
in the Oval Office, will continue to formulate options, to think
about what the appropriate course is and will continue to consult as
he does so.
Q I know you speak for the President, but what did the King say
to the President --
MR. FLEISCHER: As you know, I do not speak for other leaders when
they come to the White House.
Q Do you know whether they talked about urging Israeli restraint
after this attack a couple days ago?
MR. FLEISCHER: They did not speak specifically about the attack.
The President expressed the condemnation and the anger that he felt
in the public session.
Helen.
Q What recent provocation can the President show the American
people by Iraq against America to justify bombing Iraq, killing
Americans and killing Iraqis?
MR. FLEISCHER: Okay. Without going into the second part of your
question --
Q Recent. Recent provocation. Anything that would justify going
to war.
MR. FLEISCHER: Okay. Without going into the second part of your
question and justification for any potential action that the
President may or may not decide to take --
Q He doesn't think he has to have one?
MR. FLEISCHER: The fact of the matter is Iraq today is thumbing
its nose at the world. Iraq is not honoring the obligations it
committed to when Saddam Hussein signed a peace agreement to end the
Persian Gulf War. He continues to refuse to allow weapons inspectors
into Iraq, he continues to violate the policies that allow for oil
to be exported from Iraq. Saddam Hussein has thumbed his nose at the
world, and has lied and not kept his obligations.
Q Thumbed his nose at the U.N., but not at the U.S. per se, so
why is it a U.S. role?
MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I thought you would be the first to say the
U.S. plays a role in the U.N. We belong. And Saddam Hussein's --
Q Okay, then vote in the U.N.
MR. FLEISCHER: When Saddam Hussein violates his word that he gave
when the Persian Gulf War ended, by saying he would allow for
unfettered inspection by international inspectors, and does not keep
his word, that's a real cause of concern for the United States and
for the United Nations.
Q It may be a cause of concern, but is it a cause to go to war
and kill a lot of people?
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to speculate about what the future
may or may not hold.
Q Ari, back in the Gulf War, one of the reasons given for not
toppling Saddam then was fear of upsetting a balance
between Iran and Iraq. What's happened since then that would
now make it -- you know, make carrying out U.S. policy of replacing
Saddam more acceptable in the region, or more productive?
MR. FLEISCHER: Randy, I think it's safe to say that on an
overwhelming bipartisan conclusion, when the Congress voted and
President Clinton signed into law the language of the legislation
that made regime change the policy of our government, policymakers
in both parties reached a thoughtful conclusion that President Bush
supports, that the world would be better off and the region would be
safer with Saddam Hussein removed from power. And the reasons for
that are because of the instability that Saddam Hussein has brought
to the region, the threats to the lives of the millions of people
who live in the region that Saddam Hussein represents, and the
bellicose nature of Iraq's regime.
And that's why you've seen such an unusual, bipartisan showing of
support for legislation calling for a regime change.
Q Ari, two quick questions for you. One, is President aware of
the press reports from London that now 22-year-old Osama bin Laden's
son -- is control of all al Qaeda operations?
And it's just like, like father, like son. And he's said he's ready
to take his father's --
MR. FLEISCHER: Regardless of who it is who may or may not be in
any type of positions of power in what's left of al Qaeda, the
President is focused on defeating al Qaeda as an entity, and he's
focused on defeating terrorism wherever it exists. He's less
interested in the names of any individual who may be involved, as
much as he is in rounding up every individual who may have any type
of role in sponsoring terrorism. So the President is really not
interested in the names; he's interested in the capture of all.
Q And, second, in connection with the terrorists held at Cuba --
in Cuba, Guantanamo Bay, some of them, they have filed lawsuit
against President Bush. If you have seen the proffer of the lawsuit?
MR. FLEISCHER: I've known what the courts have ruled about this
matter, and the courts have already spoken on it and nothing has
changed.
Q The President has been saying all along that the
fundamentals of the economy are strong. But today we had
some manufacturing numbers that came out showing that manufacturing
slowed a lot more than expected in July. So why is he so confident?
And what fundamentals is he referring to?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, Heidi, as you know from being a financial
reporter, on any given day, you're going to have a wide variety of
data released. And much of the data can give different pictures of
the economy. But, by every measure, most of the data that is coming
out does support the private sector belief, the government's belief
that the economy is growing.
Yesterday we talked about that blue chip private forecasters
continue to believe that the economy will grow between 3 and 3.5
percentage points this year. The Federal Reserve economists have
come to the same conclusion, that the economy will grow by 3 and 3.5
percentage points. And so every given day, all the experts review
all the data that come out, and reach those conclusions.
Q But are there any data that you can point to other than
forecasts, projections, actual data showing that we're in a
recovery?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, certainly the fact that the economy grew by
5.0 percentage points in the first quarter. The economy grew, but a
much smaller amount than the President would have liked, in the
second quarter. When you take a look in the first-time claims for
unemployment, you'll still see that there is -- first-time claims
are below levels that would raise alarms.
So that today's release, for example, on first-time claims -- it
comes out every Thursday. The employment picture remains somewhat
strong in those reports. So, again, you can take a look at the
scores of reports that come out on a weekly basis.
Suzanne?
Q The United Nations, Jordan, France, Germany, all these
countries against military action to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Does
the President feel as if he's been effective in communicating his
position, and does he feel that he in any way influenced King
Abdullah today in articulating that position --
MR. FLEISCHER: I certainly hope you are not presuming that the
President's position is military. The President has indicated he's
made no decisions. The President is reviewing all the options that
are available. That would include military options, diplomatic
options, political, financial. And so I'm not aware the President
has made any -- reached any conclusions, because he has not.
Q And if the President is not -- if military option does happen,
and other countries don't come on board, is the United States
prepared to do it alone?
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, I can't answer a speculative question about
a hypothetical that doesn't exist.
Ken.
Q Ari, the President was asked, regarding the
terrorist attack at the university in Israel in which five
Americans were killed, whether or not this would provoke the United
States to open up a front on its war on terror there. His answer was
that he -- that we already have actions in Afghanistan and the
Philippines. I wonder, can you explain what those actions have to do
with a terrorist attack in Israel?
MR. FLEISCHER: The point the President is making is that the war
against terrorism is a multi-front war. And in different regions of
the world, the war is being fought differently. In Afghanistan, it's
being fought through a variety of means that includes the military.
So, too, in the Philippines, through training programs.
In the Middle East, it's being fought through diplomacy, it's
being fought with financial means, it's being fought through
political means. And those are the steps -- and the President, from
the beginning, after September 11th, said different regions of the
world will require a different response to terror. But wherever
terror is, the United States is determined to fight it.
Sadly, the attacks that took place in Israel yesterday have
claimed American lives. And the President is just as determined to
fight terror in the Middle East as he is everywhere else in the
world. It's taken too many lives of too many people from a variety
of nationalities, and now including Americans.
Q If I can follow on Suzanne's question. The President did seem
to stress today that he is leaving open all options
regarding Iraq. However, we've never seen any reports of
"the diplomatic secret plan" for resolving a problem in Iraq.
(Laughter.) But as you know, we keep seeing potential military
scenarios. Is there such a diplomatic option in the works?
MR. FLEISCHER: Yes, let me fill you in on the diplomatic secret
plan. (Laughter.) As you know, the United States works very hard
through the United Nations, through world organizations, to bring
political and diplomatic pressure to bear, so that Saddam Hussein
does live up to the obligations that he committed to when the
Persian Gulf War ended.
Saddam Hussein is the one who signed a peace agreement saying
that we would have weapons inspectors in Iraq to make certain that
Iraq did not develop weapons of mass destruction -- the object of
which was not to have inspectors in the country. The object of which
-- that's the process. The objective is to stop Iraq from getting
weapons of mass destruction that, if they were to obtain them, they
would be used either against America, America's allies, or be used
to blackmail the United States with the threat of being used against
America's allies -- most likely target being, of course, Israel.
And that is why Saddam Hussein has got to be held, in the
President's opinion, accountable for the commitments and the
promises that he made that he would not develop weapons of mass
destruction. That effort is being, again, undertaken through the
United Nations, that's a diplomatic effort. And as I indicated
earlier, Saddam Hussein has thumbed his nose at it. And as Secretary
Rumsfeld testified on the Hill yesterday -- or others testified on
the Hill yesterday -- I don't believe it was the Secretary -- others
testified before Senator Biden's committee -- Saddam Hussein will
lie.
Jacobo.
Q Ari, I have two questions for you on trade
promotion authority. First of all, you sounded very
optimistic today that things are going well. In case the President
gets the Senate approval before he goes to Crawford, Texas, would he
have a bill signing ceremony here, just like he did?
MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think that the bill won't be ready and
enrolled and sent to us. And in any case, I don't think we need to
move that quickly on the signing. I think you may hear from the
President about how important this is, perhaps tomorrow, in terms of
-- this is a singular, major accomplishment. And let me tell you
what will follow as a result of free trade agreement -- free trade
-- trade promotion authority being given to the President now.
There are several agreements that are trying to be negotiated
around the world. Without trade promotion authority the President's
hands are tied, he can only negotiate one country at a time. Most of
the big trade agreements that lead to the most jobs for America's
workers are the broader agreements that involve multiple countries.
Following the effort in Seattle back in the mid- to the late
1990s to negotiate a worldwide trade agreement, the Seattle talks,
as everybody remembers, broke down. In Doha in 2001, through
Ambassador Zoellick's work, the talks were successful. What's
necessary now is to move beyond those Doha first round of talks and
now implement a worldwide trade agreement. And Ambassador Zoellick
stands ready, once the President has trade promotion authority, now
to implement that on a multi-country basis.
The Free Trade Agreement of the Americas is another important
regional trade initiative that is standing by, ready to be acted
upon, if trade promotion authority can be granted to the President.
Then, of course, these agreements would have to be submitted to the
Congress for a straight up or down vote. They would not be
amendable. That's one of the key strengths of trade promotion
authority.
The bottom line of all these fuzzy sounding global agreements is
more opportunities for the American people to market the products
and the services they make abroad. The more foreigners buy American
products, the more jobs there are for the American people. That's
the strength of the Senate action today.
Q My follow up has to do again -- Secretary O'Neill and Reserve
Chairman Alan Greenspan, you just said, are having lunch with the
President today. The Secretary is traveling to South America next
week. He's going to Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina. The crisis in
Argentina certainly has spread, it's now contagious, Brazil is
having dire problems. Uruguay the same. Is the subject going to be
broached today with the President, O'Neill and Chairman Greenspan?
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm spending my lunch here with you, so I don't
know what they're talking about. I will get a report, though,
afterwards, and see what I can share with you. It's possible that's
a topic; I just don't know.
Q On bill signing --
MR. FLEISCHER: I want to keep moving. Yes, ma'am.
Q On Mexico, Ari, you mentioned something in regards
to a future meeting between President Fox and President Bush in
Crawford, Texas. Do we have the date for this meeting, and
what's on the agenda? Immigration, probably?
MR. FLEISCHER: Actually, I didn't quite mention it. (Laughter.)
Q Or we understood that --
MR. FLEISCHER: I was answering an inquiry that supposed the
meeting was going to take place. We will be announcing shortly the
President's more complete agenda for his trip down to Crawford in
August. And as I indicated, the President will be meeting with a
foreign leader while he's there.
Q Just one?
MR. FLEISCHER: Just one. And the President enjoys a very good,
close relationship with Mexico, and he looks forward to all his
meetings with President Fox.
Q Do we have anything on the table for the two Presidents to talk
about? Immigration? The situation with Cuba? Business -- from Mr.
Fox?
MR. FLEISCHER: As always, whenever a meeting is announced, more
information will follow about any agenda for any of those meetings.
I think it's premature now to guess.
Connie.
Q To follow-up on the questions about Hamas, why doesn't the
White House take action against Hamas or its backers -- Iran or
other countries? There is the precedent, in 1986, President Reagan
went after Libya because one American was killed at a disco bombing
in Germany. So there is precedent for this.
MR. FLEISCHER: I think the President has indicated that we are
taking action against terrorists, and that action comes in a wide
variety of forums. And that's what the President is dedicated to.
Ellen.
Q There's been some question about long-term
unemployment, and that that is not moving as quickly --
unemployment not moving as quickly as people would like, as the
economists hope. Is the President going to be doing anything about
trying to address that specific issue?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, that is one of the issues that the President
is most concerned about. The President, when he began the year,
warned about the risks of a jobless recovery, urged Congress to take
action on the stimulus package and extended unemployment benefits
for 13 weeks to help people who were unemployed.
The President believes that if any one person is unemployed,
that's one person too many. And that's something that the President
will continue to focus on as he looks to get the economy moving in
even higher numbers than it already is.
The stimulus package did include some of what the President asked
for. It did not include all of what the President asked for to help
give a boost to the economy. But given the fact that we also learned
yesterday that the recession actually began earlier than anybody
thought, lasted longer than anybody thought, the unemployment rate
is at a lower level than it historically has been for most
recessions.
But it remains a top priority for the President. And the best way
to deal with unemployment, to deal with the economy, is for Congress
to continue its work to send trade promotion authority to the
President. And one of the best ways to create jobs fastest is for
Congress to take action on terrorism insurance legislation --
without which, hundreds of thousands of construction jobs are at
risk, because businesses are not getting the insurance they need.
And most of the businesses affected are in urban areas, and these
businesses are involved in the construction trades, but they can't
get insurance for their large construction projects.
Talk about a provision that affects the bread and butter of
working-class Americans, this is an issue where the Senate -- the
Congress has yet to act. And the President hopes they will.
Ron.
Q Back on the bombing, the President says
he's furious about it. But it doesn't sound like he's really going
to do anything about it other than what he's already doing. Is that
--
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I just have to dissuade you from the notion
that when the President says that the United States is going to take
steps that involve political, military, diplomatic, financial, and
he doesn't spell out for you which one of those options it is, that
you say he's not doing anything. The United States is continuing to
do a variety of things to combat terrorism, and we will continue to
do so.
Q And is there a message to Israel in
there, that you all do whatever you want to do and we're
with you on it?
MR. FLEISCHER: As the President indicated, Israel has a right to
defend itself. And he always cautions that it's important to
remember the consequences of any actions to promote peace. But this
was a horrific act of violence, a horrific act of terror.
Q Further following up on that, a few minutes ago when you said
that the U.S. is just as determined to fight terrorism in the Middle
East as anywhere else, were you opening the door to a direct U.S.
response to this Palestinian attack at Hebrew University?
MR. FLEISCHER: The United States is making direct responses
through the variety of the means I just outlined. We do so through
their political means, through diplomatic means, and we continue to
do that.
Q I'm referring now to a specific direct response that would be
seen as a direct response --
MR. FLEISCHER: Again, I just refer you back to what the President
indicated today.
Q Do you agree with what Shimon Peres said outside
a few minutes ago, that the Palestinians are killing their own
future?
MR. FLEISCHER: There's no question that the President believes
that these people who engage in these acts of terrorism are the
Palestinians' worst enemies, let alone Israel's worst enemies. And
now, these people have taken American lives.
There's no question that people who engage in these homicide
bombings do not believe in the cause of peace, and they represent
some of the biggest obstacles to the Palestinian people's ability to
achieve a state.
Q Ari, Senate Democrats say a prescription drug bill
is dead for this year. Some Republican senators are making
this a campaign issue. With older Americans caught in the middle,
does the President plan to try and get a prescription drug bill
passed before November?
MR. FLEISCHER: The President would dearly love to have a
prescription drug bill passed before November. He hopes that the
Congress will be able to return to this issue. Obviously, the House
of Representatives -- here's what's happened now.
The House of Representatives has passed legislation to get
seniors prescription drugs. President Bush supports the legislation.
It can happen if the Senate can figure out how to get its act
together and get it done. The House was able to. The President is
ready, willing and able to sign. The missing partner is the Senate,
and the President hopes that we can work with the Senate to get this
done.
There was a path for it to have been done in the Senate and,
unfortunately, the leadership of the Senate chose a partisan path as
opposed to letting a bipartisan bill emerge from a place that had
enough votes to get it moving, and that was the Senate Finance
Committee. It's a very puzzling thing that the most bipartisan plan
of all was yanked out of the Senate Finance Committee, where it
could have been most likely passed by the floor of the Senate with a
bipartisan vote.
Q Ari, I'm interested in why you won't get specific about U.S.
involvement in or response to the deaths of five
Americans in Israel. Is the FBI investigating? Do we assume
that Israel is better prepared to deal with a response to the
situation without our help? Tell us why the President -- why we're
not seeing a visible U.S. response to the murders of five Americans
here?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the United States has been in direct contact
with Israel, through the embassy, and will continue to be, to
develop leads about who is responsible for this attack. And we will
continue to work with Israel on those matters.
Paula.
Q In the last week, there have been amendments added to both the
homeland security department bill and the Defense appropriations
bill that would prohibit any company that established offshore tax
havens from receiving federal contracts from those departments. Would the President consider vetoing the Defense
appropriations bill if the Wellstone amendment is kept in
it?
MR. FLEISCHER: I've heard no talk about that. The United States
is -- the President is committed to working with the Congress to
take action to prevent sham transactions that would protect
corporations from paying the taxes that they are supposed to pay.
Q Ari, I know you can't talk about secret
diplomatic plans or military plans, but we often read about plans
for Iraq, and we often hear about --
MR. FLEISCHER: I've noticed. (Laughter.)
Q We also hear about disputes within the administration over
Iraq, and we have hearings on the Hill about Iraq. Isn't all this
chatter making it difficult to actually make planning for whatever
it is you're going to do about Hussein?
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that if Saddam Hussein picked up America's
newspapers and read them, he'd be really confused right now, not a
bad outcome.
Q Does that means it's intentional?
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't think that's the case. As the President
says, there are a lot of number fours and number fives who really
don't know anything about what they're talking about who happen to
talk.
Deb.
Q Ari, you just said before that we're in contact
with Israel to develop leads about who is responsible. We
know who's responsible, it's Hamas. They've claimed credit for it.
And what we are all asking you, in different ways here, is why is
this attack different from 9/11, when the President went down to
Wall Street, to Ground Zero, and said, the people who did this are
going to hear from us. Why isn't he saying something similar here?
Is it that five lives aren't enough?
MR. FLEISCHER: The United States is already in the middle of an
active war against terrorism. That's why Hamas is on the list of
terrorist organizations, that's why the President has been as strong
as he has been in confronting the veiled leadership of the
Palestinian Authority, and will continue to be as strong as he has
been in supporting Israel in its war against terror. And those
efforts will continue at the presidential level, and at all levels.
Bob.
Q Ari, in the stakeout, Foreign Minister Peres tried to draw a
distinction between going after terror and going after Palestinians.
And in that context, he brought up some economic initiatives and some security initiatives that Israel is prepared to
take. Did he share those with the President, and if so, what
was the President's reaction to that?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the focus -- I'm not going to get into all
the specifics, but the focus was on humanitarian aid to the
Palestinian people. The President completely agrees it is vital to
make a distinction between the Palestinian people and the terrorists
who prey upon them and who prey upon Israel and who prey upon other
innocents. And the Palestinian people have not been helped by their
failed leadership.
But the Palestinian people have a crying humanitarian need. And
the President wants to work with Israel, and Israel has indicated a
willingness to take steps that are concrete to help improve the
humanitarian conditions for the Palestinian people. And the
President is going to support those steps and continue to work with
Israel on it.
Q Last night the Senate confirmed the President's
nominees for the Federal Reserve Board. I was curious if you happen
to know when the President will sign-off on that so they can get to
work on the Board? And for the economy overall, is the
President encouraged that the Senate took action so quickly to get
them confirmed, so they can get to work on economic issues?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the President is of course always grateful
whenever the Senate confirms anybody. But there are many more people
who are waiting in line in the Senate to be confirmed. And it's
important that the Senate finish its business, because there are
many jobs that are waiting for their officially confirmed
office-holders to be able to assume their full powers and full
duties, at the Federal Reserve and at other places as well.
And it took the Senate a little while to even confirm people for
vacancies at the Securities and Exchange Commission. So the
President will continue to look toward the Senate for action on
these positions, and he hopes that before they leave, either tonight
or tomorrow, the Senate will be able to do what Senates usually do,
which is on their way out of town, confirm an awful lot of people
who have been hanging. And the President does have a commitment from
Senator Daschle to do that. Senator Daschle has said so publicly.
Q One last time, when the President said that Israel must defend
herself, does that mean that's a green light for action from the
United States? Does that mean the U.S. will support action --
MR. FLEISCHER: The President is saying the same thing that he has
always said, that Israel has a right to defend herself and Israel
makes its own judgments.
Q -- Jordanian King, are there concrete steps or agreements that
you can point to that -- were reached with the President, aimed at
moving forward the Middle East peace process?
MR. FLEISCHER: The concrete steps that are being focused right
now on the Middle East peace process, vis-a-vis the Palestinians,
are a creation of a constitution, the creation of security forces
under a unified command that are effective, and the fight against
corruption by setting up financial systems that allow for money to
be spent on schools, on health care projects, as opposed to being
siphoned off for corruption.
Those are the three principal areas that focus on the institution
building of the Palestinian entities that will give confidence to
Palestinian people, to the Arab neighbors, to the Israeli people,
and to the United States, as well as Europe and Russia and the
Quartet, that Palestinians are indeed creating institutions that
everybody would hope get created for a state to be born.
Q And you're saying that Jordan is playing a role in --
MR. FLEISCHER: Absolutely, Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are
playing very helpful roles in all of this.
Q When you said a moment ago that the United States is in direct
contact with the embassy in an effort to continue to develop leads,
is the United States taking an active role in the investigation of
this attack?
MR. FLEISCHER: I think this is something that Israel is leading
the effort in.
Q Ari, as the United States formulates its response to the
bombing, is one of the factors you take into account whether or not
Americans were actually targeted, or just happened to tragically be
present and Israelis were the ones who were actually
targeted?
MR. FLEISCHER: I think that for the families, it does not make
any difference. Americans have been killed, and that's why the
President expressed his outrage and his anger about this attack.
Q But does the United States in any way see a distinction between
Americans tragically who were present, as opposed to Americans being
targeted, as you try to figure out what your response should be? Do
you see a difference in kind there at all?
MR. FLEISCHER: I really don't. I don't think the President makes
that distinction.
Randy and then Les.
Q Ari, was the President encouraged by the arrests of WorldCom --
two WorldCom executives this morning? And do actions like that
provide the sort of deterrent the President was seeking when he signed the Corporate Responsibility Act?
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the Justice Department will have additional
announcements, or an announcement, to make later today about this
topic. But suffice it to say the President is determined that people
who break America's laws and engage in corporate practices that are
corrupt will be investigated and will be held liable, will be held
accountable, and will likely end up in the pokey, where they belong.
Lester.
Q Ari, on Saturday, August the 17th, after you all have gone off
to Crawford, advocates of black reparations are hoping to attract a
crowd of one million to Washington to demand up to $10 trillion in
reparations to blacks for slavery that ended 136 years ago. And my
question, what is President Bush's position on such black
reparations demands?
MR. FLEISCHER: I would refer you to the same comments that I made
when you asked me that question, about -- I think it was a year ago.
Same position then.
Q A year ago, you remember?
MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct.
Q You remember it, Ari? I don't remember --
MR. FLEISCHER: Lester, I always remember your questions.
Q What was it, just to refresh my less-than-agile mind, like
yours?
MR. FLEISCHER: I'm sure you'll find it in the transcript.
Ken.
Q Wait a minute, wait a minute -- no, I have my second question.
Harvard's AIDS researcher, Dr. Bruce Walker, told the 14th
International Conference on AIDS of an HIV-positive Boston man whose
immune system had been fighting this infection, but who had
unprotected sex with a male partner who has a second strain of HIV,
which makes development of a vaccine next to impossible. And my
question: since there are reports in San Francisco and New York of
widespread resumption of unsafe sex, does the President believe that
taxpayers should continue paying for the treatment of people who
have AIDS and deliberately spread it, or who engage in unsafe sex?
MR. FLEISCHER: Lester, I have no idea about any of the
circumstances that you cited with those examples
Q No idea? All right.
MR. FLEISCHER: Ken.
Q Ari, just a point of clarification. When the President made the
remarks this morning regarding terrorists who commit these acts in
the name of -- I believe he used "false religions" was his term.
What exactly was he saying? And I ask this simply because, as you
know, when he used the word "crusade" way back when, there was some
criticism then. So I was just wondering if you could clarify exactly
what he meant.
MR. FLEISCHER: The President believes very deeply that Islam is a
religion of peace. And there are people who use the pretext of
religion as an excuse to kill Jews, to kill Israelis, and now to
kill Americans. And the President will oppose that with every fiber
in his body. And the President knows the peaceful intent of the
Islamic religion.
These people who are terrorists are radicals, they're extremists,
and they represent a threat to not only the people of Israel, but
the people in the region, and especially to the Palestinian cause
themselves -- itself.
Sir.
Q Back to the five Americans killed in Jerusalem. Do you feel
like they were targeted because they were Americans? Or it happened
that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
MR. FLEISCHER: I don't think I could possibly be in a position to
evaluate that.
Jacobo.
Q Ari, you have defended the President's vacation in August from
this podium. How does he feel about --
MR. FLEISCHER: Will you be down there?
Q No.
MR. FLEISCHER: Well, we hope you will join us.
Q I'll be with my son. (Laughter.) But my question is, how does
the President personally feel about all these criticisms that have
been thrown at him?
MR. FLEISCHER: I think he's used to the silliness of Washington.
It kind of just rolls off his back. And he's looking forward to
getting down there, and -- it's a silly, silly town sometimes.
Q Thank you.
MR. FLEISCHER: Thank you.
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